13:52:32 From James Kinnamon : Pennington, NJ 13:52:45 From Andrew Ottiger to James Kinnamon(Privately) : wrapping up a call right now 13:54:46 From David Guralnick : NYC 13:54:46 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : Evanston, IL 13:54:52 From Alexander Covan : Livingston, NJ 13:54:53 From Will Thalheimer : Somerville, Massachusetts! 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We are recording this. 14:12:02 From Lauren : Is it possible to mute those chime sounds? They're quite distracting. 14:12:13 From Will Thalheimer : But we are taking attendance and will let your state regulator know you are in attendance. I'M JOKING! 14:21:55 From ACalvert : how do we have a producer when we are separated? 14:22:35 From Will Thalheimer : ACalvert, the producer can be anywhere. You do NOT have to be collocated. 14:23:15 From Will Thalheimer : co-located. You don't have to be collated either! 14:25:30 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : Excellent point Will! My producers are usually at least 5 states away from me 14:25:32 From rventura : Hello - is there a way we can download or access the slides? 14:26:15 From Will Thalheimer : Yes. I think we are planning to send the slides to you later... 14:28:13 From Brian Callen : Yes, Slides will be sent out after the meeting. 14:28:21 From rventura : Thank you! 14:29:55 From Sarah : Cognative Science/Adult Learning says that adults learn in about 7-15 minute pieces (same think Alicia mentioned about spacing the program). Do you think one of the benefits of this remote expereince will be an analysis by the State Bars on CLE requiements? E.g. allowing module learning (4 15-minute chunks) for the 60 minute hour? 14:31:02 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : I hate that I ever made mistakes, but now I put those past mistakes to use in training & supervising other. professionals 14:32:04 From Morgan : @Sarah I would like to think CLE regulators will re-visit many of their rules after this experience 14:42:12 From Andrew Ottiger : Re: Sarah's question about CLE requirements, it is difficult to say and there are and will be a lot of factors. Any changes would likely be state-by-state and not nation-wide. As we all know too well, CLE credit is based on the clock and not on competence or assessments. The good news is that some states already do allow this through their partial credit calculations or have minimum time requirements that are less than 60 or even 30 minutes. Some states already do allow credit 15 minute chunks. (But watch those rounding rules!) 14:42:36 From WXF1 : Will you be sharing the slides? I didn't catch all the book titles. 14:43:02 From Alexander Covan : Yes 14:43:17 From WXF1 : Thanks! 14:46:43 From rstropus : All good principles, but how will we encourage our subject matter experts to do anything more than lecture 14:47:37 From JMercier : How is the presenter circling items with a red dot? PPT question! 14:47:38 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : I think Will’s message is heartening for that - if 5 minutes of the learner answering questions improves learning, then we can ask our expert presenter: what is the one question you want them to be able to answer later 14:48:38 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : And then we (as producer) support them to stop and ask the learners that question in the last 5 minutes. And then we push our luck and ask the expert to identify two questions they should be able to answer - build slowly so it isn’t overwhelming 14:51:45 From JReibman : When you record a program on Zoom - does the chat save in the recording? 14:52:45 From Larry Brown : JC, I’d love to hear more about Will’s “presentation science” material in a subsequent session. 14:53:26 From JMercier : me too re: presentation science! 14:53:42 From spinelll : Will - interesting and good points to put to use! Thanks! 14:53:50 From v_taylor : I enjoyed Will's presentation. More from him, please 14:53:51 From Kenneth.Miao@mmc.com : is this session recorded for replay? 14:53:58 From hdifranco : JReibman: Zoom will save the chat in a .txt file (if you select that option) so it can be sent with the video file if you choose to do so. 14:54:08 From Will Thalheimer : JMercer… If you want the RED LASER you can hold the CONTROL KEY and move your mouse. 14:54:10 From K Feher : I'm sure that I'm not alone in saying it's very tricky to get attorneys to answer questions, especially if you're not in the room with them. Any suggestions for eliciting questions from the audience? 14:54:27 From Melissa : will the slides from this presentation be available as a pdf or download? 14:54:32 From kramerd : I'd be interested in hearing other methods of interactivity (besides polling in the chat). Is anyone using actual polling software with Zoom? 14:55:12 From spinelll : i don't think nys will allow bundling 14:55:45 From hdifranco : kramerd: I've used Mentimeter and PollEverywhere with PowerPoints. With Zoom, you can just switch the program on your screen to show results. 14:55:58 From spinelll : we use questions in zoom - not chat - for regulatory verification for cle credit 14:56:24 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : Can we get Will to give his presentation to CLE regulators nationwide? That could drive change 14:57:15 From Will Thalheimer : K Feher… YES. To get ANYBODY, not just lawyers to answer questions, the key is to ask really interesting questions, AND have answer choices that are ALL PLAUSIBLE, or all have similar plausibility. 14:57:52 From kramerd : Spinelli, NY will allow on-demand participants to watch programs in whatever sized pieces they like, as long as at the end, they've viewed the entire program before requesting credit. I think this could be treated the same.Thanks, hdifranco! Good suggestions. 14:58:56 From Andrew Ottiger : Lish: Will, JC, and I presented to CLEreg in Montreal a couple years ago. We also shared the whitepaper that Will discussed. 14:59:03 From Green : how receptive are participants to previewing handouts before participating in online learning? 14:59:19 From yeresli : Do you recommend websites to search for stock photos? 14:59:32 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : Shutterstock is a good one for stock photos 14:59:39 From Will Thalheimer : I use Big Stock Photo. 14:59:52 From yeresli : Great, thank you! 14:59:52 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : When choosing stock photos, really pay attention to diversity and inclusion of the humans portrayed 15:00:14 From Will Thalheimer : You can also go to the Creative COmmons website and search for copyright-free photos. 15:00:16 From hdifranco : I frequently also search Google Images and set the criteria to images licensed for commercial reuse. Often a good option for no-cost images. 15:01:07 From JMercier : Which technology do you recommend most? Zoom, Webex, GoToMeeting? 15:01:21 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : WE use Mentimeter at conferences and participants seem to LOVE it 15:02:24 From Jess : Can you share any tips on how to get attorneys to actually take an elearning course/training? We're finding that offering relevant classes isn't enough, food isn't an incentive anymore, etc. 15:02:26 From Audra Mossor : True Andrew 15:04:41 From Michea : Are firms using Zoom for web based CLE programming? 15:05:11 From spinelll : for live webinars we do and upload the recordings 15:06:25 From Michea : Thanks. I signed on late, does it track login/out times? 15:06:33 From Will Thalheimer : JMercier, you asked about what tool we recommend. Two answers to that. ONE. The one your organization already owns. SECOND. I like ZOOM. REally well designed. Great features, but still many options. 15:06:59 From JMercier : Thank you Will! 15:08:03 From Alicia (Lish) Aiken : Because I present for a variety of other organizations, I’ve probably interacted a presenter with every platform out there - so far, Zoom is my favorit 15:08:31 From Michea : Wow ok thanks Lish! 15:10:17 From Lauren : Does PLI have an existing training/resource to help presenters create effective presentations, slides, and handouts? 15:13:19 From Andrew Ottiger : To Lauren's question: Yes! Scroll towards the bottom of PLI's PD Insider page https://learning.pli.edu/PDCenter 15:14:06 From spinelll : I think there is also a CLE program through PLI but doesn't grant any cle credit - at least not in NYS. 15:16:20 From caf : Very useful presentation. Thank you! 15:22:33 From Michea : Thank you! 15:22:44 From Brandon Crase : yes, thank you! 15:22:47 From Brandon Crase : very helpful 15:22:48 From Will Thalheimer : Thanks you all for hanging in there! 15:22:50 From Green : Thank you - very helpful presentation! 15:23:17 From Andrew Ottiger : Stay safe, everybody!